Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | AVP_Matt - 4/9/2025 20:16
An AL system won't automatically shut hydraulic drives off without the workaround that tedbear mentioned. You can manually shut the motors off using the switchbox. Caseihfarmer was mistaken above too, you'll need a STMM and the Dickey-john style sensors which shouldn't be too hard to do. Honestly the STMM and hydraulic drive module will be the easy parts of what you rattled off. You could be getting in the weeds a bit eliminating the Case display but I'm sure it can be done.
The above is correct. The motors will start/stop based on the implement switch. The system will not start/stop them individually. On a planter with hydraulic drive and a clutch module as the planter approaches point rows, the clutch module shuts off rows or sections based on its coverage map. The hydraulic drives continue to run even though all the sections that it runs may be cycled OFF. Once the entire planter reaches the end of the field and the planer is raised, then all hydraulic motors stop. The reverse process is used when planting is resumed. Once the planter is lowered, all drives start turning and the clutch module allows the clutches to engage as needed.
When I worked as a Tech many years ago, a distant customer called and asked about the idea of using a Clutch Control module to control the hydraulic drive on his soybean planter. He already had a Clutch Control Module that he used on his corn planter with individual row shutoffs (the way Ag Leader intended) and hydraulic drive.
He wanted to be able to move the hydraulic module and clutch module to his soybean planter BUT use the motors to shut off half the planter by individually controlling each motor. He reasoned that since he could manually shut off half the planter with a section switch that there might be a way to have the clutch module do that for him. The trick was to program the clutch module and the hydraulic drives to use separate switches on his switch box and then intercept the connections leading to the hydraulic drive switches with relays. This meant that when the clutch module felt that one half the planter should stop planting, that it opened a relay which was in effect the same as manually shutting that half off with the switch.
He basically had the idea and I had access to the various connectors and wiring diagrams. I was able to make a harness that takes the output from the Clutch module and instead of connecting to actual clutches connects to a pair of relays. These relays can then "break" the connection to the section switches so the planter behaves as if the operator is using the section switches but in effect flips them ON/OFF for him.
As far as controlling your three drum motors, that portion could be the same. I foresee confusion in monitoring the speed of the drums and the hydraulics that may be involved. I feel it can be done but question the cost versus utility of such a plan.
Edited by tedbear 4/10/2025 07:08
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Possibly a crazy idea for an ag leader system and red planter
